| 1 | (;GM[1]FF[4] |
| 2 | SZ[19]KM[7.50] |
| 3 | PW[indigoBot]WR[17k] |
| 4 | PB[GNU]BR[13k] |
| 5 | PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/] |
| 6 | DT[2005-12-04]AP[CGoban:2] |
| 7 | EV[Ninth KGS Computer Go Tournament - Formal division]RE[B+209.50] |
| 8 | TM[3480]RU[Chinese] |
| 9 | C[indigoBot [17k\]: GTP Engine for indigoBot (white): Indigo2005 version 2/12/2005 |
| 10 | GNU [13k\]: GTP Engine for GNU (black): GNU Go version 3.7.7 |
| 11 | ] |
| 12 | CA[UTF-8]RO[1]ST[2] |
| 13 | ;B[qc];W[dd];B[qp];W[dq];B[oq];W[qj];B[do];W[co];B[dp];W[dn];B[cp] |
| 14 | ;W[eq];B[cn];W[bo];B[cm];W[en];B[cq];W[bn];B[ck];W[qg];B[fc];W[eo] |
| 15 | ;B[bm];W[kc];B[ep];W[fp];B[dr];W[jq]C[jasonlai [5k\]: lol |
| 16 | ];B[ic] |
| 17 | ;W[db];B[mc];W[fq];B[ld];W[kd];B[ie];W[ke];B[cf] |
| 18 | C[jasonlai [5k\]: hows the compter think |
| 19 | jasonlai [5k\]: ?.? |
| 20 | ];W[mf] |
| 21 | ;B[ee];W[bp];B[cr];W[bq];B[br];W[be];B[ql] |
| 22 | C[kalim [12k\]: wow, this is like watching 20k's play |
| 23 | ];W[mq];B[fl] |
| 24 | C[jasonlai [5k\]: 20 k ?.? |
| 25 | ];W[jf];B[oc];W[de];B[ff] |
| 26 | C[jasonlai [5k\]: @@ |
| 27 | ];W[df];B[gs]C[jasonlai [5k\]: lol |
| 28 | jasonlai [5k\]: yose time lol |
| 29 | ] |
| 30 | ;W[dg];B[ol];W[er] |
| 31 | C[olczyk [15k\]: I don't know it takes Whites eye shape. |
| 32 | ];B[ar] |
| 33 | ;W[el];B[fk];W[ek];B[fm];W[ej];B[gi];W[if];B[he] |
| 34 | C[kalim [12k\]: i guess white bots thinks left side is his |
| 35 | ];W[ci] |
| 36 | ;B[mo]C[jasonlai [5k\]: his? |
| 37 | kalim [12k\]: is its |
| 38 | ];W[bj] |
| 39 | C[jasonlai [5k\]: @.@" |
| 40 | ];B[im];W[gg];B[em];W[dm];B[fo] |
| 41 | C[jasonlai [5k\]: GNU wins lots of game :O |
| 42 | ];W[go];B[fn];W[dl];B[bk] |
| 43 | ;W[io]C[kalim [12k\]: I wonder if it counts the value of its move |
| 44 | ] |
| 45 | ;B[eb]C[gunnar [?\]: GNU thinks it's ahead by 12. |
| 46 | ];W[fh];B[ji] |
| 47 | C[olczyk [15k\]: I thinbkm probably more. |
| 48 | ];W[of] |
| 49 | C[kalim [12k\]: i thought these bots play blitz well, why is it that they have a hour each? |
| 50 | ] |
| 51 | ;B[kn]C[Zark [5k\]: that means GNU wont play e1? |
| 52 | gunnar [?\]: E1 is not on the top ten list. |
| 53 | ] |
| 54 | ;W[hq] |
| 55 | C[maproom [7k\]: these events have a variety of time limits, to suit all preferences |
| 56 | ] |
| 57 | ;B[li]C[olczyk [15k\]: N11 seems a bit conservative. |
| 58 | ];W[oj] |
| 59 | C[kalim [12k\]: h3 is baffling |
| 60 | ];B[es] |
| 61 | C[gunnar [?\]: M11, N10 and N11 were all very close. |
| 62 | gunnar [?\]: O9 second choice after E1. |
| 63 | ] |
| 64 | ;W[qe]C[jasonlai [5k\]: *.* |
| 65 | ];B[nk];W[kp] |
| 66 | C[gunnar [?\]: GNU now thinks it's ahead by 36. |
| 67 | ];B[rd];W[np] |
| 68 | C[jasonlai [5k\]: are you GNU ? |
| 69 | jasonlai [5k\]: @.@ |
| 70 | kalim [12k\]: probably the creator |
| 71 | ] |
| 72 | ;B[on];W[re] |
| 73 | C[gunnar [?\]: GNU is running on my computer and I have its trace output on screen. |
| 74 | ] |
| 75 | ;B[rk]C[olczyk [15k\]: You must have a faster computer then the bot. |
| 76 | ] |
| 77 | ;W[mh]C[jasonlai [5k\]: how to set a bot? |
| 78 | ];B[ri];W[no] |
| 79 | C[Zark [5k\]: what level is Gnu set on? (if it is not secret) |
| 80 | gunnar [?\]: Level 14, --large-scale option. |
| 81 | ] |
| 82 | ;B[nn]C[jasonlai [5k\]: which programme do you set the bot? |
| 83 | ];W[pp] |
| 84 | C[micro [16k\]: GNU is so strong that i can't win@@ |
| 85 | jasonlai [5k\]: @@" |
| 86 | gunnar [?\]: Set? The program connecting it here is called kgsGtp. |
| 87 | jasonlai [5k\]: how can download it? |
| 88 | ] |
| 89 | ;B[op]C[jasonlai [5k\]: i want to make a bot :o |
| 90 | olczyk [15k\]: surf kgs site. |
| 91 | ] |
| 92 | ;W[oo]C[kalim [12k\]: maybe the links in the chat channel will help |
| 93 | ] |
| 94 | ;B[po]C[olczyk [15k\]: P4 interesting move. |
| 95 | jasonlai [5k\]: i want to make a killer bot xd |
| 96 | gunnar [?\]: http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/how/outline.html |
| 97 | ] |
| 98 | ;W[qq]C[jasonlai [5k\]: thank you :D |
| 99 | ];B[pq];W[rj];B[sj];W[pr];B[or] |
| 100 | ;W[hb];B[ib];W[hc];B[hd];W[ea];B[fb] |
| 101 | C[LemonEyes [16k\]: oh, okay, found it |
| 102 | ];W[gr];B[qi] |
| 103 | C[kalim [12k\]: hmm, ko or no ko for bot |
| 104 | ];W[pi] |
| 105 | C[gunnar [?\]: White should worry about M3, but GNU doesn't know about it either. |
| 106 | jasonlai [5k\]: how to get a Go-playing program -_-" |
| 107 | gunnar [?\]: Um, never mind, M3 doesn't work. |
| 108 | ] |
| 109 | ;B[mp]C[gunnar [?\]: But N4 does. :-) |
| 110 | ];W[gf];B[fs] |
| 111 | C[LemonEyes [16k\]: I wonder the rank of the programmers |
| 112 | jasonlai [5k\]: ?.? |
| 113 | ] |
| 114 | ;W[lq] |
| 115 | C[LemonEyes [16k\]: It'd be fun to have your own program outsmart you "'at a'boy, I'm so proud" |
| 116 | Zark [5k\]: what does Gnu say about top groub? |
| 117 | ] |
| 118 | ;B[dc];W[cc]C[jasonlai [5k\]: seki |
| 119 | jasonlai [5k\]: lol |
| 120 | gunnar [?\]: The most active GNU Go programmers range from 4 dan to a couple of kyu. |
| 121 | ] |
| 122 | ;B[ec]C[LemonEyes [16k\]: okay, so that doesn't generally happen |
| 123 | ] |
| 124 | ;W[ge];B[cb];W[gd];B[gc]C[gunnar [?\]: No worries on the top now. |
| 125 | olczyk [15k\]: indigobot dcoers not count liberties well. |
| 126 | ] |
| 127 | ;W[bb]C[LemonEyes [16k\]: what's the best bot on KGS? |
| 128 | ];B[da] |
| 129 | C[LemonEyes [16k\]: what rank i mean |
| 130 | kalim [12k\]: the bot that is playing black I think |
| 131 | PaperTiger [12k\]: 12k |
| 132 | ] |
| 133 | ;W[rp]C[LemonEyes [16k\]: really, is that all? |
| 134 | PaperTiger [12k\]: Pretty strong for a bot :) |
| 135 | olczyk [15k\]: What about gopp? |
| 136 | Tobamf [6k?\]: comp go is more fun than pro Go |
| 137 | PaperTiger [12k\]: It's 12k too. |
| 138 | ] |
| 139 | ;B[rq];W[qr] |
| 140 | C[LemonEyes [16k\]: how about in the whole wide world of computer go? how good's the best program? |
| 141 | PaperTiger [12k\]: Same thing. |
| 142 | ] |
| 143 | ;B[ro]C[LemonEyes [16k\]: that's great! I have a new goal! |
| 144 | PaperTiger [12k\]: The top bots are all at the same level. |
| 145 | ] |
| 146 | ;W[nq]C[PaperTiger [12k\]: To beat the bot or program the best bot? |
| 147 | ] |
| 148 | ;B[bc];W[cd] |
| 149 | C[LemonEyes [16k\]: to beat the best. I don't program, although that would be an exhilarating challenge as well |
| 150 | ] |
| 151 | ;B[ba] |
| 152 | C[Tobamf [6k?\]: it might just turn into a frustrating challenge |
| 153 | ] |
| 154 | ;W[nr]C[LemonEyes [16k\]: yeah, i could see that happening too |
| 155 | ] |
| 156 | ;B[ns]C[PaperTiger [12k\]: Gonna be a slow and painful endgame. |
| 157 | LemonEyes [16k\]: 6 pts isn't too shabby at this point is it? |
| 158 | olczyk [15k\]: What would be cool is to have a bot which connects too your brain. So you can ask it questions and play based on the answers. |
| 159 | ] |
| 160 | ;W[ih] |
| 161 | C[PaperTiger [12k\]: <-- Doesn't want robots connected to his brain. |
| 162 | LemonEyes [16k\]: o3 might have been played, certainly by a human i'd think |
| 163 | olczyk [15k\]: I do. As long as they are not made by Microsoft. |
| 164 | ] |
| 165 | ;B[ls] |
| 166 | C[LemonEyes [16k\]: what would be cool is if a google search were just a thought away, think of the pop-up ads |
| 167 | ] |
| 168 | ;W[ii]C[LemonEyes [16k\]: you'd black out and buy a pepsi |
| 169 | ];B[fe] |
| 170 | C[jasonlai [5k\]: gunnar |
| 171 | jasonlai [5k\]: which programm do you run up th bot? |
| 172 | ] |
| 173 | ;W[ij] |
| 174 | C[Tobamf [6k?\]: somehow that doesnt sound so thrilling LemonEyes |
| 175 | Ambivlnce [14k\]: I thought the idea of a direct jack to the brain was cool ... right up till the pop up ads. |
| 176 | LemonEyes [16k\]: maybe I'm just a romantic ;) |
| 177 | ] |
| 178 | ;B[jj];W[jk];B[ik];W[kk];B[kl] |
| 179 | C[kalim [12k\]: indigo just insists on donating stones |
| 180 | ];W[jl];B[jm] |
| 181 | ;W[lk]C[gunnar [?\]: No, GNU is getting itself into trouble. |
| 182 | ];B[mj] |
| 183 | ;W[il];B[gn];W[hk];B[hn];W[ho];B[kr];W[jr];B[gj];W[lm];B[ln];W[mm] |
| 184 | ;B[mn];W[mk];B[nj];W[km];B[jo];W[jp]C[gunnar [?\]: K5 blunder. |
| 185 | kalim [12k\]: ^^ |
| 186 | ] |
| 187 | ;B[kh];W[pk]C[kalim [12k\]: and indigo didnt catch it |
| 188 | gunnar [?\]: There's lots of time to catch on to it. |
| 189 | Zark [5k\]: question is who will first |
| 190 | ] |
| 191 | ;B[rg]C[gunnar [?\]: GNU has H8 as nineth move for 1.31 points. |
| 192 | ] |
| 193 | ;W[pl];B[cj];W[pn]C[gunnar [?\]: ??? |
| 194 | Zark [5k\]: good move! |
| 195 | ];B[pm] |
| 196 | ;W[qn]C[Zark [5k\]: or maybe not |
| 197 | ];B[qm];W[rn];B[sp] |
| 198 | C[kalim [12k\]: whats it doing for the minute or so between moves? |
| 199 | ] |
| 200 | ;W[bi];B[ni];W[qh];B[rh];W[rr];B[sr] |
| 201 | C[Tobamf [6k?\]: it must be doing minuteia |
| 202 | ];W[rm] |
| 203 | C[Ambivlnce [14k\]: It's composing poetry. |
| 204 | ];B[ph] |
| 205 | C[kalim [12k\]: loves letters to idiotbot |
| 206 | ];W[oi];B[oh];W[nh];B[ok] |
| 207 | ;W[og];B[pj];W[ps];B[os];W[nd];B[lb];W[nc];B[nb];W[kb];B[od] |
| 208 | C[kalim [12k\]: sneaky bot |
| 209 | ];W[oe];B[ne];W[pd];B[pc];W[me];B[md] |
| 210 | ;W[le];B[pg];W[hs];B[ds];W[bs];B[nf];W[ng];B[nd];W[cl];B[bl];W[jd] |
| 211 | ;B[qf];W[id];B[ha]C[kalim [12k\]: hey, theres some L and D there |
| 212 | ] |
| 213 | ;W[an];B[ac];W[am];B[ei];W[ak];B[di];W[fi];B[fj];W[al];B[lg];W[mg] |
| 214 | ;B[fg];W[gh];B[eh];W[dh];B[eg];W[rb];B[sd];W[qd];B[rc];W[bd];B[jg] |
| 215 | ;W[hf];B[gb];W[qb];B[ig];W[hh];B[se];W[pf];B[rf];W[hj];B[hl];W[gl] |
| 216 | ;B[hm];W[kj];B[jh] |
| 217 | C[gunnar [?\]: White is a bit short in the eye department. |
| 218 | ];W[ko] |
| 219 | ;B[jn];W[hi];B[pe];W[nl];B[gk];W[nm];B[ll];W[ed];B[fd];W[je];B[hc] |
| 220 | ;W[pb];B[ob];W[mr];B[ms];W[lr];B[ad];W[qo];B[pp];W[ks];B[js] |
| 221 | C[PaperTiger [12k\]: If white was a Unix kernel you'd see a bunch of PANIC in the logs. |
| 222 | ] |
| 223 | ;W[is];B[ks];W[kq];B[rp];W[so];B[sn];W[sm];B[ir];W[hr];B[rs];W[bf] |
| 224 | ;B[ae];W[so];B[qs];W[bg];B[af];W[ag];B[ab];W[lo];B[aq];W[ap];B[dj] |
| 225 | ;W[lh];B[ki];W[lf];B[kg];W[lp];B[fr];W[ef];B[in];W[lj];B[mi];W[gp] |
| 226 | ;B[qk];W[iq];B[pa];W[jb];B[la];W[cg];B[oa];W[ce];B[qe];W[];B[rj] |
| 227 | ;W[as];B[cs];W[jc];B[om];W[ml];B[ia];W[];B[dk];W[];B[pi];W[];B[dn] |
| 228 | ;W[];B[mb];W[];B[rl];W[];B[sl];W[];B[sn];W[];B[sm];W[];B[rn];W[];B[] |
| 229 | TB[aa][ca][ea][fa][ga][ja][ka][ma][na][qa][ra][sa][bb][db][hb][jb] |
| 230 | [kb][pb][qb][rb][sb][jc][kc][lc][nc][sc][gd][id][jd][kd][pd][qd][ge] |
| 231 | [je][ke][le][me][oe][re][gf][hf][if][jf][kf][lf][mf][of][pf][sf][gg] |
| 232 | [hg][mg][ng][og][qg][sg][fh][gh][hh][ih][lh][mh][nh][qh][sh][fi][hi] |
| 233 | [ii][oi][si][ej][hj][ij][kj][lj][oj][qj][ek][hk][ik][jk][kk][lk][mk] |
| 234 | [pk][sk][cl][dl][el][gl][il][jl][kl][ll][ml][nl][pl][dm][gm][km][lm] |
| 235 | [mm][nm][rm][en][pn][qn][eo][qo][so][qq][sq][pr][qr][rr][as][bs][ps] |
| 236 | [ss]TW[cf][ah][bh][ch][ai][aj][ao][hp][ip][gq][ir] |
| 237 | C[jasonlai [5k\]: @@" |
| 238 | ]) |